Today I feature the inimitable Dr. Roger McLendon, director of neuropathology at Duke University. McLendon has made major contributions to the field in the area of molecular characterization of gliomas. He has also demonstrated a commitment to professional service, including his current work on the Neuropathology Committee of the College of American Pathologists. Check out this interview with one of the most influential neuropathologists practicing today.....
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Roger McLendon, MD |
1. Why did you decide
to become a neuropathologist?
When I was in college, I asked a buddy
of mine who was in vet school what course should I take that would help me out
in med school. His answer was neuroanatomy. I did not have a
course available in neuroanatomy at Emory, so I went over to the med school and
talked with a guy working in pain fibers. He had a great project (using
the old Fink-Heimer silver stain) that got me interested in the anatomy of the
brainstem. I followed that experience up in med school with a project
working in muscle enzyme histochemistry with Dale Sickles. I found the
use of stains to identify things not seen before to be an exciting way to spend
a career. I have followed those experiences up with immunohistochemistry
and FISH to see things in brain tumors.
2. Name some important
professional mentors. Why were they important to you?
Obviously my Duke colleagues and
teachers have had huge impacts on my career. I was tremendously fortunate
to land at Duke at the same time as Drs. Stephen Vogel, Peter Burger, Darell
Bigner, Doyle Graham, Barbara Crain, Edward Bossen, and Gordon Klintworth.
While I was at Duke, my co-fellows were Doug Anthony, Rod McComb, Gerald
Campbell, and Sebastian Alston and visiting fellows included H.K. Ng and Felice
Giangaspero. Each one of these neuropathologists pushed each other to
think clearly, regardless of age or faculty status, in a gentle and collegial
fashion. However, the opportunities that Darell Bigner made available to
me have pushed my career far beyond my own early goals and to him I owe the
biggest thanks.
3. What do you predict
the practice of neuropathology will be like 50 years from now?
In brain tumor surgery, it is undoubted
that advances in microelectronics and photonics will allow greater localization
and visualization of tumors and normal anatomy. As a result, we will be
receiving better characterized tumor samples that we will be expected to handle
in more stringent fashions. Fresh tissues will be submitted directly to
pathology labs for culturing, cellular subset detection and quantitation, and
tumoral microenvironmental analysis. In the past, pathology has been
ahead of therapeutics by 20 or more years because we could detect differences
in tissues that no drugs could exploit. However, I think that the largest
advances will come in biological therapeutics that will push pathology to
better understand the biological differences to be exploited in the tumor. As I discuss later on, the problem in
diagnostic pathology will be in staying current with the rapidly changing “core
knowledge”. These issues will be have to be addressed by large group
practices of neuropathologists who can provide consultations in all things
neuropathologic. In this way, esoteric testing will be made
financially feasible, particularly among rare diseases.
4. What advice would
you give to a pathology resident interested in doing a neuropathology
fellowship?
If you want to have a successful
academic career, be ready to give up on 75% of what you learn in your
fellowship. To succeed, you must focus; to focus in the future will mean
going far beyond the confines of traditional pathology to learn new techniques
in cell culture, -omics, microenvironmental manipulation including stem cells,
and electronics that will be needed to measure and manipulate these
factors. I would be shocked to think a successful academic
neuropathologist would be able to compete in the research arena and still sign
out brain biopsies, muscles, nerves, eyes, and dementia autopsies.
However, outstanding diagnosticians will not got the way of the dinosaur.
We will still need outstanding, broadly trained diagnosticians, but I fear that
what will be considered to be “core knowledge” for the discipline may
become overwhelming and yet, rapidly modified. Keeping up will be a
challenge. The challenge for departments will be to make room/share facilities
for enough diagnostic pathologists who can handle each of these areas well
5. What advice would
you give to a neuropathology fellow about to embark on a search for his or her
first job?
I recently heard a story about people
planning their retirements. The study said that a majority of people
planning to retire focused on money issues while a majority of people who had
been retired for 5 or more years focused on social issues. In other
words, happiness is ultimately not found in a paycheck, but in the people
around you and the issues you are working on. Therefore, look very
closely at the people you will be working with. I have been extremely
fortunate to work with a great group of neuropathologists here at Duke who focused
on areas that I was happy to let them focus on. Christine Hulette loves
dementia work, Anne Buckley loves muscles and nerves as well as ultrastructural
studies and Tom Cummings is just a brilliant consultant in brain biopsies,
eyes, and bone/soft tissue. They have left me with time and energy to
work with the Duke Brain Tumor Center researchers, the Brain Tumor Biorepository, and to look at brain biopsies. Also get a chance to meet
the clinicians you will be working with. I once interviewed at a major
medical center where the chief of oncology told me he had no interest in
neuro-oncology (something important to know!) Along these lines, I have
had wonderful relationships with our neurosurgeons and neuro-oncologists and
look forward to their continued success.
6. In what city would
you like a future American Association of Neuropathologists meeting to be held,
and why?
The first issue you have to deal with is
a June meeting and its weather. Then you have to have a place that you
can fly to relatively easily. Then my choice leans heavily to being able
to see a baseball game. Finally food choices are important and having a
wide variety of fish, fowl, and beef choices. From this it comes down to
either Denver or Tampa (Tropicana Field is enclosed) and my preference would be
Tampa, because of its proximity to beaches, great airport, indoor baseball, and
excellent restaurants.